Takeover Unfiltered

Brianna Rooney:
All right, everyone. We are back for our part, two of our meaty tips to building your resilience at work. This is so exciting. I cannot wait to get into it. Taylor, how are you doing today?

Taylor Bradley:
I'm doing good. How are you?

Brianna Rooney:
Good. I love this subject. Woo. Just makes me excited. Yeah,

Taylor Bradley:
Absolutely. Well, and make sure you guys stay on to Alyssa, to our broke to boss tip at the end of the episode.

Brianna Rooney:
Yes. It will give you the chills. Let's get into it.

Brianna Rooney:
Welcome to talent takeover

Taylor Bradley:
Unfiltered.

Brianna Rooney:
When it comes to working hard and keeping it real. We know our, self care, happiness, inner peace and time. I'm Brianna Rooney. And this is Taylor Bradley. Hey y'all and we have thrived in chaos and turned it into in art form. So, Taylor, what are we doing here today?

Taylor Bradley:
We're here to give you a raw under the hood view of all things recruiting and finally give credit where credit is due to a long underrated industry. That's full of quote unquote experts.

Brianna Rooney:
All right, well then let's take this show to the road.

Taylor Bradley:
All right. So, um, number five, mind your mindset. So our beliefs, attitudes and mindsets influence our resilience specifically to the extent in which we believe we have control over the outcome of our lives. People who believe they control their own outcomes are better able to cope with them rather than feeling victimized, chills.

Brianna Rooney:
That one did give me the chills. The victimized part is kind of what, like,

Taylor Bradley:
Yeah, I always tell my kids and I, I know I've shared this with you before. I always tell my kids you're free to make the choice, but you're not free from the consequences of your choice and you're not a victim of your choices. So that's one of the things where I'm like, okay, you know, you're gonna go stick your hand in that ant pile. That was a choice, not a good one, but you're not a victim of it, even though I'm like, okay, let's clean up the ant bites, you know, but there's certain, that's obviously from a kid level, but I do apply that to everything. I think it applies to adults just literally anybody you're free to make the choice, but you are not a victim of your choices. So, you know, definitely your beliefs, attitudes, mindsets, it influences your resiliency. And, and I think, again, most of resilience to me is just your mindset.

Brianna Rooney:
Mm-hmm, a hundred percent. I mean, you just can never escape that. It's just so powerful. It's crazy what you can and cannot do if you believe you can do it. Um, which I, I, yeah, which I, I told you about the whole, my whole marathon thing. I, I know I've told you that story. it's like,

Taylor Bradley:
Yeah. Tell, tell everybody about that

Brianna Rooney:
Story. Yeah. Okay. So like, um, I don't run, I only run when being chased, which is never . Um, I, again, I'm active, but I just hate running. And so I had this employee that was on like the co you know, the cross country team in high school. And, and, uh, I was trying to tell him, cause I was listening to a lot of like books and stuff and um, you know, like Tony Robb's S stuff. And I was like, you know what? It's mind over matter. Like always it's always mind over matter. I said, I bet you, I could do a marathon cuz he's like, cuz he had never done a marathon. He only did a half marathon. And in my opinion, that's a way out. You need to do a full marathon. Come on. You're on the cross country team is what you do. So like we had this bet essentially. He was like, there's no way you can do a marathon. I go, I bet you, I can and I will not train. So I did not train . I went to that marathon. It went four in the morning. So LA marathon is pretty cool, actually really, really cool. Um, the streets you get to see, but um, yeah and I finished it and my, my thought was, I'm gonna do, um, run 30 seconds walk 30 seconds. And I did that for six hours

Taylor Bradley:
Oh

Brianna Rooney:
Um, and it was hard now I did the, the only, uh, preparation I did do was of course Google. When do people fall down? You know, like when do people like stop? How do you, like, how do mentally prepare for the marathon? Not physically? How do you mentally prepare? Right. And sure enough, it, it says it about mile 17 to 20 actually is when people fall is when you'll see lots of people quit because, um, and, and sure enough at about, I actually think mile 19 or so I started breaking down. I was crying, sobbing like a baby. There's porta potties on the side, it had a mirror in it and I'm literally shouting at myself in the porta potty, get your mindset, Brianna, get your mindset. You're not giving up your note, like get your together. Like I'm literally yelling at myself in the mirror. And then, uh, I feel like I pulled the story, but um, I, I get out and there's these like Otter pops and these little beautiful popsicles. And I was like, there's the good Lord giving me a Popsicle. I will.

Taylor Bradley:
That's a yes. Oh my God. Like a child I could push through. Now there's popsicles.

Brianna Rooney:
There's a Popsicle.

Taylor Bradley:
there's it's like, you just needed to see like the, a silver lining. You come out of a port body, which is, I don't know how it gets any worse than that. 17 miles you're and then you're in a porta potty. That sounds like hell. Um, but then you come out of the porta potty and there's popsicles and it's like all is right in the world again for you.

Brianna Rooney:
But that's what that's, what's funny. It's like, that's the mindset though. Right? It's like I had to get my mind into that and then see that, and that was my silver lining, but yeah, you're right. Like that's that the mindset can take you so far and it can drop you off at the side of the road with, you know, with nothing. Yeah,

Taylor Bradley:
Absolutely. Absolutely. That's a big one. It's like, it can change your life for the positive and it can absolutely change your life for the negative. And it's, it is so hard to do. I think, I think that there are certain people that kind of have resilience in them. It's like, I think who, how you're raised has a lot to do with it. Right. Um, but then I also think as you get older and older, I think the biggest one is believing you have control of your out the outcome of your life, regardless of what life throws at you, you know, believing that you can control. It's like, okay, well this is just leading me to this. Even if it's something really negative, it's like this. Okay, well that is just leading me to something better what's meant for me is meant for me. And so just having that mentality is kind of what I, what keeps me going forward is like, okay, that served a purpose in my life. And now it's onto this.

Brianna Rooney:
Yeah. So do you visualize yourself winning like, like the wins and in your career and stuff, do you visualize it and see yourself doing it? Uh, how do do that? I,

Taylor Bradley:
Okay. I just, I have goals for myself that are just goals. That it's something it's really bizarre because they're some are personal, some are professional, but it's personal to me to keep it personal. Like I don't even share those with my hu. Yeah. I don't share those with anybody. I wanna know what, like I have my goals that are personal professional. Sometimes they're intertwined. Um, just like, what kind of mom I wanna be, what kind of employer or leader, you know, it's just my own personal goals as well as milestones and things I want to achieve. And by when, um, and so I try to stay focused on that. You know, whenever I'm having a moment where I'm like, Hey, what, what the hell was this for? You know, I'm like, God, you know, tell me what this, give me the sign that this was for something, or this was, this is supposed to happen. And it never fails that you see the signs or is it your mindset that changes that you are interpreting things as signs? I'm not really sure which one, that's

Brianna Rooney:
It. Okay. I believe that one's it. So, you know, I believe in luck. Um, and one of these days, so we do learning rainbows, everyone, um, at our company here, uh, thrive talent perch. And um, I did a, a learning rainbow before at techies about luck. And it's about the perception, you know? And like, does it exist? It's just, if you're paying attention, does it exist?

Taylor Bradley:
So what is your level of luck with regards to the lottery? Being over a billion right now?

Brianna Rooney:
well, I'm surprised I'm even at work and not just going to every liquor store I can find to get quick fix

Taylor Bradley:
Well, you know, they have an app for it called

Brianna Rooney:
Jack no

Taylor Bradley:
Jack pocket

Brianna Rooney:
In California though.

Taylor Bradley:
It's everywhere. Boo. It's a app called Jack pocket and you can buy lottery tickets. And I literally buy lottery tickets all the time. I

Brianna Rooney:
Did not know that. Okay. So yeah, I'm like literally writing this down.

Taylor Bradley:
She is writing it down a screenshot of it, but I just sit here and you just pay like a $4 processing fee, but, and you can link it directly to your bank account. You just go on there. You can, you can even get pools like with other random people. What? Yeah, it's crazy. It's a good one. So Jack pocket

Brianna Rooney:
Changed

Taylor Bradley:
Feel free to sponsor talent takeover and filter Jack pocket for the, for the plug. But, um, let's move on to number six. So this one's huge get connected. So a person's social network provides a buffer against the stresses of resilience. Um, social support obviously helps people manage stress. So whatever that looks like get connected. Um, I think that was super, super important. Now that most people work from home. I know myself, I can get like hermity and very, just hermit, like from being at home where I'm like, oh God, you need to get outta the house. Like, you're a nightmare, you know, by the end of the week, I need to go and get out because I'm just like, I've seen these same four walls for too long. Um, I need social time. So even though we talk all day long at work to various people, I need to get out, see different things, get social, talk to people about non-work related things. I think that one's huge. I think having a network and people that you can talk to helps you build that resilience and overcome obstacles.

Brianna Rooney:
Okay, good. When I was first reading this one, I was like, I'm gonna fight this one. Cuz when it says social network, I naturally think of like Facebook, Instagram, tick TikTok, like, oh yeah, no, this is the opposite. No it's okay. I'm that you frame that. Thank

Taylor Bradley:
You. Yeah, no, no, no it, I could see where you totally think that like social cause I'm with you. I actually, um, I know I shared this with you, but before I recently had some health issues, I just was like done with social media. I realized it was just putting me in a really negative Headspace, um, and was just making me constantly compare everything in my life, everything to everything. And I was like, okay, this and that was me. That was me doing what I needed to do to remain resilient and like, okay, I'm shutting that down. And there were months straight that I just didn't log onto any kind of social media with the exception of LinkedIn, but like no Facebook, no Instagram, none of that because it was creating this toxic mindset in me that mm-hmm , wasn't it wasn't real. None of that is real, you know? And so it's, it took me taking a step back and being like, wait, I'm comparing myself to that isn't even real, you know, this is like, like why don't I have this house or that car or whatever. And it's like, it just was making me feel really down on myself. So I was like, no, I'm gonna unplug. So I actually agree with you. I think, um, social media specifically can actually take a huge toll on your mental health in a negative

Brianna Rooney:
Way, a hundred percent not to mention. It's just, I mean talk about lack of productivity. Like there's nothing good that's happening there again. Unless when you think about it from like our perspective recruiters, LinkedIn, I mean that's like our honey hole, right? Yeah. But even that can be too much. So I don't know about you, but I actually have not only LinkedIn scheduled into my calendar, but I also have our slack, which is like, you know, we're remote first. Right? So like that's very like culture focused. Um, so I even have like the, our vibes channel, you know, kind of in my calendar on when like I'm gonna go in and like respond. Cause that stuff is important, but it definitely can mess with you. And even though it's a positive, sometimes most of the time it can still mess with your resilience. I think.

Taylor Bradley:
Absolutely. I would completely agree. Um, okay. So move on to number seven, practice self-awareness in all things, I think this is a good one. Um, paying attention to the stories and self talk we do in our heads can help us recognize when our resilience is stressed or we need to do some maintenance.

Brianna Rooney:
Mm-hmm um, I think I've told you, have I told you about wicked chatter?

Taylor Bradley:
No.

Brianna Rooney:
Okay. Wicked chatter is something that I, I, I call in our mind where you're kind of having a fight with someone in your mind, um, or you're even forecasting, but it's like you're having this fight that has not only not exist. It has not happened. The person has not said that you don't know how it's gonna go. You're going down this awful rabbit hole and this wicked chatter and turning that off is so important.

Taylor Bradley:
Wait, so you do that. You, you, yeah, that's interesting to me cuz I never you're just so laid back and go with the flow and I'm the type that's like, I, I do this all the time and my family gives me about it. I will think of the, a scenario that hasn't even happened yet. Mm-hmm and my mind will go. I'm like, oh God, dooms day negative. NA like I'll think of the worst case. I'll play it out. But I have always perceived it as like, it's a way for me, it's like a survival mechanism for me to like plan for the worst, but hope for the best. But I'll literally play out a whole scenario. I'll stress about it. I'll whatever. And then I'm like, okay. And then I've moved on from it. So if it actually happens, it doesn't affect me the same way because I've already lived through it. But then it's also really damaging too, because what if it never even happens?

Brianna Rooney:
No, it's so awful for you. And then, I mean, think about like when you have a bad dream about someone and you wake up in the morning, mad at them.

Taylor Bradley:
Oh yeah, yeah. It

Brianna Rooney:
Didn't even happen. Like come on crazy pants, but no. So because I've, I've identified it and I've named it in my mind, I'll literal be like, Brianna, stop the wicked chatter. Like I'll all talk to myself and be like, stop up. Nope done. I think of like, you know,

Taylor Bradley:
We can chatter. I love that. You know, I love the name, but I love that.

Brianna Rooney:
Yeah. And so like I'll and I, I think once you start identifying things and you talk about it openly, like I even do this with my mom. Like she'll again, it's like the forecasting thing, what you just kind of talked about. Um, and I'll be like, mom, did that happen? Or did that not happen? She's like, hasn't happened yet. I'm like stop the wicked chatter. Just like, um, but like even when I was a kid and I don't, I don't know how well your coping mechanism a kid, but even as a kid, my coping mechanism for this was like Peter pan for some reason, like Peter pan and like tinker bell was like my thing, like I wish I could fly and all of those things. Yeah. And so whenever I would have a bad dream, that's what I would think about. So I even teach my kids, you have to have a go-to happy place of like, how am I gonna get outta this wicked chatter? Your go-to, uh, happy place, which then kind of goes down the affirmation, you know, um, channel. But yeah,

Taylor Bradley:
Absolutely. It's, it's all relative, but I think that's a good way to describe it to kids. Like how you were saying, you know, um, earlier on in the episode, affirmations affirmations for children, I'm like, I love that. And you know, explaining to them what an affirmation is that might be challenging, but what's your go-to happy place. What are the things you tell yourself? So that's I like, I like how you're framing that up and simplifying that because I'm like, I'm gonna write that down and apply that to my, my life with my kids.

Brianna Rooney:
Well, okay. So I don't know if it's exactly my happy place. I think I'm happy Gilmore in that situation. But um, like I, one of my go-to affirmations that I started with when I went back from the marathon, um, was I will be rich filthy rich. The reason why that existed then and why I feel it's relative to me now is because for me money means freedom and time with my kids. Yeah. That's how I relate it. And that's what fires me up and pumps me up to keep going. Yeah. So like, I kind of think of that. And then I go again to like vacations to pool times to, but not just escaping more of like shutting off and being in it, being in it, which is really important. And I think when I think of the self-awareness, um, and I've got slapped bit by even my kids in Lincoln recently, they're like, you're on your phone again.

Brianna Rooney:
And I'm like, and, and in my mind, I'm like, it's work. You guys, it's not, I'm not on any social media. It's not like I'm texting friends. I'm not, it's it's work, but it's like, it doesn't matter. I'm still on my phone. And it's, it's funny. I don't know about you, but like when you're at the park and you're seeing all these parents on your phone, I almost wanna wear a shirt or a hat or something that says I'm working. Like I'm not, I'm not socializing. I'm working, you know, anyways. Yeah. Which is again, my you're your own insecurity, right? Yeah.

Taylor Bradley:
It's like keep scrolling. I'm I'm actually like making business deals. You guys keep scrolling through social media, you know, but I I'm with you. It's the same for me. It doesn't, if you're on your phone, your kids don't know. They don't know if it's for work. They don't know it's social media. They don't care. Yeah. It's it's yeah. So that positions that's nicely for number eight, watch your stress levels. So obviously everyone gets stressed from time to time. Um, some people get overwhelmed by stress and let it impact their resilience. Others are highly tuned to recognize when they are becoming stressed and do something about it. So just always aim to identify how you feel and act when you're stressed and what helps you de-stress so that you can catch yourself before you spiral. Boom.

Brianna Rooney:
Oh, bam. Ooh. I feel like this could be its own episode. we have a couple minutes left. Um, oh my goodness. So stress. So this is crazy. Um, I read recently, so back in the day when they were like, obviously cancer's such a huge, awful beast, right. Um, when we get into that, but they always thought that it was cuz of our food and it may be right. Might be the chemicals in our food who knows, but they've actually said that it's more, um, tied to stress and I think that's super interesting and that scares the out of me. So when I'm stressed, I would love to hear what happens with you. But when I'm stressed, I'm always like, Hey, I'm cool. As a cucumber, until my left eye starts switching. Right. and then which totally happened, then it'll happen for like two to three days and I'll try it. And then now I'm good to be like, okay, what just caused that stress. But then, um, now it's almost like I've been operating so well in stress for so long that it's just kind of a, maybe a norm and I don't even have signals anymore. So I try to like feel that. And so now it's more like of a anxiety thing. So I'm dealing with that internally myself, but I would love to know how you know it and then how you correct it.

Taylor Bradley:
Yeah. I think, like I said, I really, I know myself really, really well in the sense I've been working from home for a while, even before it was a thing. And that was really hard at first. And there's so much stress and anxiety and just, just a lot that comes with that because you're, I feel like it's true what everyone says, you never really unplug. You're always on, you always are accessible. And so I know whenever I, I exactly what I just said, like know before you're about to spiral. I know when I'm about to spiral and I know what I need to do before that happens. I'm like really? Because it has happened, I've experienced it so many, many times that I I'm like, okay, I see where this path is going. And if I don't do this, if I don't get outta the house, if I don't take a day and truly unplug from work, um, you know, I'll be honest.

Taylor Bradley:
Last week I was extremely stressed for no particular reason. It's just buildup. Just mm-hmm I, I was just stressed. And then I took the weekend, spent time with my kids. We were at the water park. So I left my phone in the room and I was just like, whoa, I love that. Look the phone. I don't care. Like what comes through. And I felt so better. Um, by the time, well, we talked on Tuesday, you know how I was like, mm-hmm, like we, we had one of the best conversations we've ever had in our, our time working together because I just felt refreshed. Like I know I've spiraled enough. I'll be honest. I've spiraled enough to know when it's coming and what I need to do to fix it. And it depends on what kind of spiral it is. If it's a stir crazy spiral. If it's a stress spiral, I, I can spot the signs in myself because I have spiraled before. Um, and I know what corrects it for me. So, um, I think unplugging in all things, social media work, whatever it is that is making you stress unplugged from it for a day, for a week, everybody says, take vacation. It really is true. You know, it's true

Brianna Rooney:
Unplugs. Yeah. We're actually here starting and you know, we're here going to, um, be paying attention to how much PTO people take. Not because we're tracking how long they actually are gone from work, but it's because we wanna make sure they're actually taking it. Uh, which is so important. But I I'm gonna, I'm gonna flip the switch and I know we're kind of at time, but I have to just ask that on the other side of the coin, how do you deal? How do we deal with yourself or deal with employees, um, that perhaps take advantage of taking the time off, be due to stress? Like how do you manage someone with their stress at work and being like, it's not that bad. Like I, I guess how do we help with people's coping mechanisms? That's that's, that's the question?

Taylor Bradley:
Well, I think that goes back to self-awareness like, do they even know that it's happening? Cause that's kinda one, those things like we could help you, but help us help you. Do you even know is there's the self-awareness to know, Hey, I'm stressed or I've got anxiety. Like you said, this was new for you later in life. You developed anxiety that may have felt different for you. And so to actually say that out loud, and then people that have struggled with it, their whole lives like myself could help somebody with here's how I overcome anxiety in this situation, this one. But I think it's the first step is always admitting that it's a problem for you. That it's at a point for you. I think that's, it's really hard to help people when they don't recognize that they are stressed or they're starting to spiral, but you see that they're starting to spiral.

Brianna Rooney:
So then would you say something so as a leader, cause I, I, I imagine there's lots of leaders listening to this one. It's like, how do you help your people? Would you say to someone, Hey, I think you're at your breaking point or Hey, I've noticed X, Y, Z. Like, how would you deal with that?

Taylor Bradley:
Yeah. I literally said that yesterday to somebody take a day, oh,

Brianna Rooney:
Take

Taylor Bradley:
A week. You, you need to take some time, come back your, your fresh self, but you need to take some time and taking time. Doesn't mean just not sitting at your computer, turn your notifications off, delete slack, delete your emails from your phone, whatever you have to do, but you need to unplug from work. Um, and my advice to them was literally don't talk to anybody at work because what you talk to them about is work. So that's not really unplugging. So even if you're technically off, if you're not actually unplugging and you're still talking about work the whole time you're on vacation or checking emails, you will not come back refresh. You will not reset your mind. You're still gonna stay in that funk. So I, yes, I've absolutely said, I think it's just have the conversation.

Brianna Rooney:
Awesome. Woo. This was great. And again, I feel like we should have made this almost three parts, but we'll, we'll take little tidbits of this, I think. And just like branch off into other episodes because the resiliency part of work and at home are so important and people need to realize that it's one and the same.

Taylor Bradley:
Yeah,

Brianna Rooney:
Absolutely. That's an important part.

Taylor Bradley:
Yeah. And so to leave us with our broke to boss tip for today is just make a point of noticing what you tell yourself to get an early warning sign. That resilience is low. So that's, again, it goes back to self-awareness. What are you telling yourself? So I think a lot of our listeners will get some tips from that of like, okay, that's an actually an indication that my resilience is low. What I, my mind, like what I've been telling myself, like fill your tank up,

Brianna Rooney:
Fill the tank. Oh my God. You just gave me the chills. I love this. Oh my God. Thank you guys for, for listening. I know we've been getting some reviews lately and that's just super cool. Like it motivates crap out of us. Right? Keeps us,

Taylor Bradley:
We love it. Yes it does. And it keeps us going. It gets us excited to do this podcast. So yes. Please keep listening. As we always say, reach out to us. We'd love to hear from you guys, any episodes, topics you want us to discuss or anything you really liked. We'd love to hear from you. So thanks for listening.

Brianna Rooney:
All right. Thanks guys. See you next Tuesday.